How Do Y'all Feel About Religion?

[MMS]

@Fill Collins and if you think im on some bullshit

consider these lines with what I just said

Exodus 20:21 Hebrew Text Analysis

Exodus 20:22 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[Fill Collins]

i wouldn't because theres a problem that isnt understood by most christians, catholics included

and thats the "image of God"

because it says that God made "Adam" in his own image, after his likeness, male and female created he them

its implying that the image is both of them joined together (coitus)

so when someone says "anointed" they are trying to be in that place.

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 22:54-62 - King James Version

Then took they him, and led him, and brought him into the high priest's house. And Peter followed afar off. And when they had kindled a fire in the midst of the hall, and were set down together, Peter sat down among them. But a certain maid beheld him as he sat by the fire, and earnestly looked...

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The intangible thing I have faith in and base my personal morals are is my race and ethnicity, I'm not religious

If I had to take Pascal's Wager, I'd finally get baptized and take the Eucharist instead of doing , I've made my theological bed breh; Black Catholics helped me appreciate the New Testament as a unique scripture

I'm back in school and all day, even during night class there's Moonies lurking about

I've been talking to one and I've heard a similar statement about God being yang and yin (her order, male and female obv) and their anointed being the "universal parents" (the late Rev. Moon and his recently arrested wife for bribery charges)

It's funny, last time I talked to one of them, they were complaining about Chinese immigrants in Japan and Korea, all while giving me some bootleg Hong Xiuquan bs :skip:

 

[MMS]

The intangible thing I have faith in and base my personal morals are is my race and ethnicity, I'm not religious

If I had to take Pascal's Wager, I'd finally get baptized and take the Eucharist instead of doing , I've made my theological bed breh; Black Catholics helped me appreciate the New Testament as a unique scripture

I'm back in school and all day, even during night class there's Moonies lurking about

I've been talking to one and I've heard a similar statement about God being yang and yin (her order, male and female obv) and their anointed being the "universal parents" (the late Rev. Moon and his recently arrested wife for bribery charges)

It's funny, last time I talked to one of them, they were complaining about Chinese immigrants in Japan and Korea, all while giving me some bootleg Hong Xiuquan bs :skip:

i dont know what any of that has to do with what I said but thats cool

nowhere did I imply a taoist type relation ship (save maybe this kind of taoism)

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/dbz-theory-the-entire-namek-saga-and-everything-that-follows-is-actually-within-vegetas-galick-gun.1038720/page-3#post-53025641

 

[Fill Collins]

i dont know what any of that has to do with what I said but thats cool

nowhere did I imply a taoist type relation ship (save maybe this kind of taoism)

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/dbz-theory-the-entire-namek-saga-and-everything-that-follows-is-actually-within-vegetas-galick-gun.1038720/page-3#post-53025641

It doesn't because I don't believe in God

I get similar reasoning from lovebombers, my question is, if Black people believed in your findings, where would my children's children be?

 

[MMS]

It doesn't because I don't believe in God

I get similar reasoning from lovebombers, my question is, if Black people believed in your findings, where would my children's children be?

to each his own

did you believe in anything when you were born?

God simply said be, and you were.

Surah Al-Baqarah - 1-286 - Quran.com

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[Fill Collins]

to each his own

did you believe in anything when you were born?

God simply said be, and you were.

Surah Al-Baqarah - 1-286 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah Al-Baqarah. The Surah was revealed in Medina, ordered 2 in the Quran. The Surah title means "The Cow" in English and consists...

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Getting milk, I cried for sustenance and survival and got it

 

[MMS]

Getting milk, I cried for sustenance and survival and got it

did your mother bring you the milk, or did God?

El Shaddai - Wikipedia

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Genesis 49:25 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[Fill Collins]

did your mother bring you the milk, or did God?

El Shaddai - Wikipedia

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Genesis 49:25 Hebrew Text Analysis

My mother, but I must've thought that was God back then

 

[MMS]

My mother, but I must've thought that was God back then

thats why the term "Lord of Hosts" is used

in the old belief, God could be whoever he could be (and realistically should still be the same belief)

its only when you are on your way out that this becomes increasingly apparent, but likewise when you are just entering the world it is as this way too

in either case im not trying to berate you, just trying to open your heart and mind to what the Abrahmic belief should be construed as IMO

from my perspective none of the religions are far off its in its practice...its how often you are "God facing" that differs. Thats why the "fear of God" is the main thing people dwell on because thats often the only way people consider him but its probably not the way God would like to be always considered

IE if you only considered God just in mirror relationships that causes its own issue internally, but if you only consider God as a static idea that has its own problem but this is answered in this line allegorically

Genesis 1:9 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[00Scoe]

This is gibberish. I'm Jewish because of my ancestors and wanting to have a relationship with G-d. That's different from worldly affairs. I stand up for my people and donate to social causes. G-d is what helped me become a better rounded person. Just admit, you have a bias against Abrahamic religion. I used to be the same way

You can nation build and have religion.

Ie Nat Turner

Why shouldn't we have a bias against abrahamic faiths?

It was used to justify our enslavement.
Aint no jew in my bloodline - my ancestors didn't play cope games.

 

[artificial intelligence]

We're all in a simulation..

 

[projectcovo]

in hebrew the term for snake is almost the same as the word for bronze

so when he says to put a brass serpent on a pole

it can mean both the act of bronze/brass making and literal snakes

so its a weapon in two directions, but people not ready for that conversation

1 Samuel 17:38 Hebrew Text Analysis

Fam, you don't speak hebrew. You grew up in the US speaking english like the rest of us
This is why I say y'all are crazy

 

[SirReginald]

Why shouldn't we have a bias against abrahamic faiths?

It was used to justify our enslavement.
Aint no jew in my bloodline - my ancestors didn't play cope games.

I It's not the religion that's the issue it's how it's used.

 

[Larry Lobster]

are you orthodox?

I'm a bible believer, i don't label myself with other terms.

 

[MMS]

Fam, you don't speak hebrew. You grew up in the US speaking english like the rest of us View attachment 128
This is why I say y'all are crazy View attachment 126

but thats the real language

just because you were taught english, does that make english your God?

mystically speaking....hebrew might be what keeps Jews free from other languages..and what keeps them connected to the languages of the past when monotheism emerged out of polytheism (like an allegory to birth)

I'm a bible believer, i don't label myself with other terms.

then why do you use the term ecumenism? you also realize that the bible is a compilation of scrolls/manuscripts and books. There was never a "bible" handed down from God. There was a Torah handed down (5 books of Moses)

its consistently used amongst orthodox to attack other christian groups under the guise of them not following the "correct" doctrine

because they claim apostolic succession

but fail to mention how they are at odds with other groups that are older than them (miaphysites - coptics and nestorians - iranians/chinese)

 

[MMS]

Why shouldn't we have a bias against abrahamic faiths?

It was used to justify our enslavement.
Aint no jew in my bloodline - my ancestors didn't play cope games.

unless you stop writing the abrahmic faiths will have sway over you

so to your writing, you are an oppressor who forces unfavorable timelines on them and then fail to backtrack to remember that you did

remember God tested Abraham to sacrifice his son Ishmael (God has heard) at Moriah

 

[Larry Lobster]

but thats the real language

just because you were taught english, does that make english your God?

mystically speaking....hebrew might be what keeps Jews free from other languages..and what keeps them connected to the languages of the past when monotheism emerged out of polytheism (like an allegory to birth)


then why do you use the term ecumenism? you also realize that the bible is a compilation of scrolls/manuscripts and books. There was never a "bible" handed down from God. There was a Torah handed down (5 books of Moses)

its consistently used amongst orthodox to attack other christian groups under the guise of them not following the "correct" doctrine

because they claim apostolic succession

but fail to mention how they are at odds with other groups that are older than them (miaphysites - coptics and nestorians - iranians/chinese)

I used the term ecumenism because that's exactly what OP meant when he said he loves all belief systems. Yes i know the bible is a compilation of books, i could say "i'm a believer in the compilation of books called the bible" but what's the point?
I don't care about these christian groups and their doctrines, if they follow the laws told by Christ good for them if not too bad.

 

[MMS]

I used the term ecumenism because that's exactly what OP meant when he said he loves all belief systems. Yes i know the bible is a compilation of books, i could say "i'm a believer in the compilation of books called the bible" but what's the point?
I don't care about these christian groups and their doctrines, if they follow the laws told by Christ good for them if not too bad.

its just that you and others paint that as a bad thing

i think unbelief is the bad thing, now there are difference amongst belief systems but belief is a good thing at the end of the day

 

[Larry Lobster]

its just that you and others paint that as a bad thing

i think unbelief is the bad thing, now there are difference amongst belief systems but belief is a good thing at the end of the day

Ephesians 1: 7 “It is in Christ and through his blood that we have been redeemed and our sins forgiven"

It was Christ who saved us, not budda, shiva, mashiach or whatever. Looks like you don't believe in the words of the prophets and apostles. These false gods won't be able to save you when the tribulation starts.

 

[00Scoe]

unless you stop writing the abrahmic faiths will have sway over you

so to your writing, you are an oppressor who forces unfavorable timelines on them and then fail to backtrack to remember that you did

remember God tested Abraham to sacrifice his son Ishmael (God has heard) at Moriah

Unless I stop writing?
Why u casting riddles?

I have authority over me!
I'd never want to share a religion/belief system with a fuckin cac.

FACT: My/our ancestors arrived in the new world with all of our cultural shit still intact.
I'm supposed to overlook centuries of established culture & understanding for some book that's been tampered with by the very people who enslaved us?

U niggas funny

 

[MMS]

Ephesians 1: 7 “It is in Christ and through his blood that we have been redeemed and our sins forgiven"

It was Christ who saved us, not budda, shiva, mashiach or whatever. Looks like you don't believe in the words of the prophets and apostles. These false gods won't be able to save you when the tribulation starts.

Isaiah 49:26

26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

John 4:21-23

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

 

[MMS]

Unless I stop writing?
Why u casting riddles?

I have authority over me!
I'd never want to share a religion/belief system with a fuckin cac.

FACT: My/our ancestors arrived in the new world with all of our cultural shit still intact.
I'm supposed to overlook centuries of established culture & understanding for some book that's been tampered with by the very people who enslaved us?

View attachment 150 U niggas funny

are you the words you write?

there is no riddle here. Just meditate on it

 

[Larry Lobster]

Isaiah 49:26



John 4:21-23

Amen.

 

[MMS]

Amen.

there is no god but that God, the God of Israel

Isaiah 43:10

10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

 

[Larry Lobster]

there is no god but that God, the God of Israel

Isaiah 43:10

I agree. A lot of people don't.

 

[00Scoe]

I It's not the religion that's the issue it's how it's used.

It's the religion.
We had our own shit we used to adhere to.
Y'all to attached to all the johnny come lately stuff to have a real conversation about this.

The scripture is flawed & the sun dodgers who gave u the scripture are definitely flawed.

 

[MMS]

I agree. A lot of people don't.

now please i need you to understand

this is not to say: that I dont believe in Jesus

it is that everyone who was called by God whose breath he breathed into their nostrils and became souls they are his

but they arent God. Only God is God

thats why in the Orthodox tradition it is stated plainly: The holy spirit (breath) proceeds from the Father alone

this isnt at the expense of women either its just the nature of how God made both man and beast.

Hebrew Concordance: wə·rū·aḥ -- 38 Occurrences

"And the wind of God moved over the face of the abyss"

this is also why Jesus is a judge over both the living and the dead.

 

[MMS]

It's the religion.
We had our own shit we used to adhere to.
Y'all to attached to all the johnny come lately stuff to have a real conversation about this.

The scripture is flawed & the sun dodgers who gave u the scripture are definitely flawed.

can you be specific?

 

[Larry Lobster]

now please i need you to understand

this is not to say: that I dont believe in Jesus

it is that everyone who was called by God whose breath he breathed into their nostrils and became souls they are his

but they arent God. Only God is God

thats why in the Orthodox tradition it is stated plainly: The holy spirit (breath) proceeds from the Father alone

this isnt at the expense of women either its just the nature of how God made both man and beast.

Hebrew Concordance: wə·rū·aḥ -- 38 Occurrences

"And the wind of God moved over the face of the abyss"

this is also why Jesus is a judge over both the living and the dead.

So what exactly is your point brother?
The bible says God will judge all of those who don't follow his laws, the gospel were spread all over the planet yet some people still chose to follow other doctrines.

 

[00Scoe]

So what exactly is your point brother?
The bible says God will judge all of those who don't follow his laws, the gospel were spread all over the planet yet some people still chose to follow other doctrines.

Divine intervention didn't spread Christianity to every continent - genocidal cacs & their koon brigades did.

Tell the real story.

 

[MMS]

So what exactly is your point brother?
The bible says God will judge all of those who don't follow his laws, the gospel were spread all over the planet yet some people still chose to follow other doctrines.

its their right to do so

what you dont know is there were Jews before the Torah. The Torah was sent down as a judgment on Priests in particular thats why the captivity to Persia is still ongoing despite what is said

Elephantine papyri and ostraca - Wikipedia

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its important to understand that you are not born with knowledge or bibles etc

so God exists whether his message is repeated or not

following the laws are to our benefit. It is not just there to torment people. So when he sent the 618 laws down with Moses it was because he was setting the Levis apart from their brethren as a peculiar people, which is an allegory to Simeon and this line here from the Patriarch Jacob (pbuh)

Genesis 49:5 Hebrew Text Analysis

Genesis 49:6 Hebrew Text Analysis

remember, Simeon was born because the LORD heard that Leah was hated. So priests have a solemn duty to ignore what is said and to stick with what is "seen"

as far as other doctrines and peoples its their right once again, they will all come to knowledge in time. But the peoples of God shouldnt be using fear to do so otherwise they are under false interpretation

IE we are all like Jacob sleeping at Bethel. In the event shit goes south remember God will wake you.

Surah Yusuf - 1-111 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah Yusuf. The Surah was revealed in Mecca, ordered 12 in the Quran. The Surah title means "Joseph" in English and consists of 11...

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[00Scoe]

can you be specific?

List of shit christianity condones off the top of my head.

*Rape
*Adultery
*Kidnapping
*Murder

Arguing against that gon make u look stupid

 

[MMS]

List of shit christianity condones off the top of my head.

*Rape
*Adultery
*Kidnapping
*Murder

Arguing against that gon make u look stupid

i just said be specific, you listed 4 things

list 4 instances where they are justified and I will interpret on your behalf

 

[Larry Lobster]

Divine intervention didn't spread Christianity to every continent - genocidal cacs & their koon brigades did.

Tell the real story.

Who's talking about christianity? I'm talking about the bible. If you study a lil you will understand salvation were spread way before white supremacy has been a thing. The NT shows the hebrews were all over the continents, that's why Paul and them were traveling all the time.

 

[GQONTHEBEACH]

I don’t believe in the Bible! I know it’s a supreme being but everything else is a waste of time! It doesn’t matter who gods chosen people are etc, crime murder still happens hunger aids etc we all will die one day so I just enjoy my lifestyle and help those who are less fortunate and live and let live

 

[Larry Lobster]

its their right to do so

what you dont know is there were Jews before the Torah. The Torah was sent down as a judgment on Priests in particular thats why the captivity to Persia is still ongoing despite what is said

Elephantine papyri and ostraca - Wikipedia

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its important to understand that you are not born with knowledge or bibles etc

so God exists whether his message is repeated or not

following the laws are to our benefit. It is not just there to torment people. So when he sent the 618 laws down with Moses it was because he was setting the Levis apart from their brethren as a peculiar people, which is an allegory to Simeon and this line here from the Patriarch Jacob (pbuh)

Genesis 49:5 Hebrew Text Analysis

Genesis 49:6 Hebrew Text Analysis

remember, Simeon was born because the LORD heard that Leah was hated. So priests have a solemn duty to ignore what is said and to stick with what is "seen"

as far as other doctrines and peoples its their right once again, they will all come to knowledge in time. But the peoples of God shouldnt be using fear to do so otherwise they are under false interpretation

IE we are all like Jacob sleeping at Bethel. In the event shit goes south remember God will wake you.

Surah Yusuf - 1-111 - Quran.com

Read and listen to Surah Yusuf. The Surah was revealed in Mecca, ordered 12 in the Quran. The Surah title means "Joseph" in English and consists of 11...

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Do you believe the people who live in the country called israel are the same jews from the scriptures? Because if that's the case we will obviously disagree on certain topics and the discussion is pointless.

 

[MMS]

Do you believe the people who live in the country called israel are the same jews from the scriptures? Because if that's the case we will obviously disagree on certain topics and the discussion is pointless.

yes and no

i think if i gave you my honest opinion it might upset you

Mehen (game) - Wikipedia

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[MMS]

@Larry Lobster

Exodus 2:11-14

11 And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out unto his brethren, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brethren.

12 And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand.

13 And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Wherefore smitest thou thy fellow?

14 And he said, Who made thee a prince and a judge over us? intendest thou to kill me, as thou killedst the Egyptian? And Moses feared, and said, Surely this thing is known.

 

[Larry Lobster]

yes and no

i think if i gave you my honest opinion it might upset you

Mehen (game) - Wikipedia

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Why would i get upset? We will have different perspectives on prophecies depending on who we understand the people the scriptures are talking about. But salvation is always more important than identity, i don't care about proving anything.

 

[00Scoe]

i just said be specific, you listed 4 things

list 4 instances where they are justified and I will interpret on your behalf

I don't really have to respond to those instances point by point.
The Bible does that for me.

Niggas would get the death penalty these days talkin reckless like this: Is the abrahamic God u follow a criminal?







Kidnapping - rape - murder being encouraged/justified in the name of religion.

Spin it all u want but the book say what the book say.

 

[MMS]

Why would i get upset? We will have different perspectives on prophecies depending on who we understand the people the scriptures are talking about. But salvation is always more important than identity, i don't care about proving anything.

Exodus indicates that the "sons of Israel" increased and became mighty and many

and the Egyptians who didnt know Joseph (life) put taskmasters on them such that if they did not build "houses" they would be slain either when they were born or even before they were born

so given the fact that Moses was formed by a Levite man (Amram) and Jochebed, then it begs to reason that all hebrews are born in the same manner

basically you have Abraham as the "existential seed" and the idea of fatherhood and grandfatherhood being guranteed only to Jacob

then past that there are no guarantees

thats why in the New Testament, the Angel of the Lord comes to Joseph in a dream telling him to take the child into Egypt

so its implying that conceptions happen in dreams (IE Jacob dreaming of struggling with God and Esau/Laban etc) so the miracle is seeing your children despite the context of dreams. But the fear is your dreams swallowing up your children

 

[MMS]

I don't really have to respond to those instances point by point.
The Bible does that for me.

Niggas would get the death penalty these days talkin reckless like this: Is the abrahamic God u follow a criminal?

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Kidnapping - rape - murder being encouraged/justified in the name of religion.

Spin it all u want but the book say what the book say.

are you sure this is describing people?

as I said to @Larry Lobster the Torah was designed for the Priests. So when it says they are going to war, they are going to war against the Amorites (foreign/pagan stories)

Numbers 22:2 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[00Scoe]

Who's talking about christianity? I'm talking about the bible. If you study a lil you will understand salvation were spread way before white supremacy has been a thing. The NT shows the hebrews were all over the continents, that's why Paul and them were traveling all the time.

Still localized.
Before colonialism only euros, SOME east Africans & those east of Egypt followed Abraham - that's not exactly global in scale.

The rest of the world largely believed in their own thing until the colonials arrived.

 

[xenforo]

I believe in God but I know a lot of people don't and that's their problem. They are full of themselves and that's their path at the moment. Not worth a debate with someone who just wants to speak down on God because they are nasty inside. Let's hope that the newcoli is not filled with arguments and filth and hate for the fellow man. We should be living one another as fellow black men.

I see you calling each other day and broke and niggas and crackers and other words for other groups like Indians and Asians and I cry inside.

Why have you decided to live this way son? Why son? Is it filling your heart with peace and prosperity? Deep down ask yourself that.

I love you.

 

[Larry Lobster]

Still localized.
Before colonialism only euros, SOME east Africans & those east of Egypt followed Abraham - that's not exactly global in scale.

The rest of the world largely believed in their own thing until the colonials arrived.

Are you a descendant of people who were brought to the americas as slaves? If so your people always believed in the scriptures and the prophets.

 

[MMS]

I believe in God but I know a lot of people don't and that's their problem. They are full of themselves and that's their path at the moment. Not worth a debate with someone who just wants to speak down on God because they are nasty inside. Let's hope that the newcoli is not filled with arguments and filth and hate for the fellow man. We should be living one another as fellow black men.

I see you calling each other day and broke and niggas and crackers and other words for other groups like Indians and Asians and I cry inside.

Why have you decided to live this way son? Why son? Is it filling your heart with peace and prosperity? Deep down ask yourself that.

I love you.

i got love for you too and i feel that entirely

i cant stand that coli got like that (thats why I blame Houston and Chicago for normalizing it in the first place)

moderators shouldnt be using that language because the other users will say thats normal despite other stances

IE moderators arent kings they are just there to keep the dialogue clean

 

[GQONTHEBEACH]

Still localized.
Before colonialism only euros, SOME east Africans & those east of Egypt followed Abraham - that's not exactly global in scale.

The rest of the world largely believed in their own thing until the colonials arrived.

Exactly if the Bible actually happened in the Middle East why did those clear folks have to bring the natives of America the Bible, the natives already believe in whatever they was believing in ie animal spirits tree spirits etc! That’s why I’ve never celebrated thanksgiving! There’s nothing thankful of that day where natives were beaten raped and killed! It’s sick how everyone literally celebrates that day! But hey once you have the mind the body follows.

 

[00Scoe]

are you sure this is describing people?

as I said to @Larry Lobster the Torah was designed for the Priests. So when it says they are going to war, they are going to war against the Amorites (foreign/pagan stories)

Numbers 22:2 Hebrew Text Analysis

Really bra?
That passage describes forcefully removing women away from their families & taking pussy at will.

Pagans or wartime justifications be damned.
It still condones doing people dirty.

 

[MMS]

Really bra?
That passage describes forcefully removing women away from their families & taking pussy at will.

Pagans or wartime justifications be damned.
It still condones doing people dirty.

once again you are not seeing the boundary (the words on the page)

if you are not a believer you are not going to fully understand it

remember the Lord rested on the 7th day, the actions of the priests is not in the way you think

they are literally at odds with stories. This concept is also seen in the Quran as well.

So when you read "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair"

its really talking about the stories of men. The breaths of God knew the stories of man...

so if you think of say "Heracles" it should be more obvious why he is a "demigod" under the old understanding

 

[SirReginald]

It's the religion.
We had our own shit we used to adhere to.
Y'all to attached to all the johnny come lately stuff to have a real conversation about this.

The scripture is flawed & the sun dodgers who gave u the scripture are definitely flawed.

We can respectfully agree to disagree fam.